Published On:Tuesday, 23 September 2014
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“Buddha in Central Asia” - an interview with Indian travel writer Sunita Dwivedi
Sunita Dwivedi is a successful
writer, and her book “The Buddhist Heritage Sites of India,” published in 2005
had a foreword by The Dalai Lama. Its Russian translation was released in
Moscow by Ocean of Wisdom Publications in 2012. The next one on “In Quest of
the Buddha: A Journey on the Silk Road” was published in 2009 and released
simultaneously in Kathmandu and Delhi. The third one, “Buddha in Central Asia,”
was published recently in September, 2014 and is on the stands. Sunita is not a
Buddhist. She just happens to love the Buddha.
Her first book takes the reader
through the better-known sites of Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Sikkim, Arunachal
Pradesh, Ladakh, Himachal Pradesh, and even across the borders to Nepal –
covering the entire Dhamayatra of the Buddhist circuit. She has been traveling
all over South Asia and Central Asia to document archeological spots related
with Buddhist history. She is moved with the hospitality of Central Asia and
spellbound with the beauty and grandeur of Samarkand—the Jewel of Central Asia.
She wishes to spend her whole life in Samarkand.
Question: Sunita you are not a Buddhist, so then why do you have such
deep and great love for Buddha and with Buddhist history? Is it normal or
something metaphysical?
Answer: I am not a Buddhist and I even do not know when Buddha
walked into my life. As a child I often wandered barefoot through fields and
jungles of saal trees to the Ramabhaar Stupa lying about a kilometer away from
my house in the village of Kushinagar, where I was born. I used to play at the
giant mound of bricks where the Buddha was actually cremated two thousand years
ago. The Mahaparinirvana Buddha image made a profound impression upon me. The
serenity and loveliness of his face simply fascinated me.
Can you imagine that as early as
the 6th century BC, thousands of women had joined the Buddhist Sangha? They
were mostly householders and lay devotees. What was it that attracted them to
the Sangha? What was it that once lured the whole of Asia to Buddhist thought?
Was it not the spirit of tolerance, of peace and liberation, of the logic of
the Middle Path that taught people to avoid all extremes, and of the Eight Fold
Path for right behavior? The attainment of Nirvana, the freedom from
attachments is a powerful idea even for non-Buddhists.
To assimilate the practice of
fusion against division, of peace against violence is the need of the world and
Buddhist thought transcends the barriers of cultural and ethnic differences.
Q: When, how, and why did the idea of compiling Buddhist remains and
routes come into your mind?
A: We can see that Dhammadutas
and Mahamatras of emperor Asoka in the 3rd century BC, scholars and translators
of Buddhist texts, monks and pilgrims, all travelled with trade caravans along
ancient routes, called the Silk Routes, to spread the message of the Buddha. As
the religion spread in Asia stupas and monasteries came into existence along
these routes.
It was logical while covering the
Silk Routes through China and Central Asia that I should see the remains of
crumbling monasteries that seemed unable to fight the forces of nature. They
existed precariously on mountain tops, in the Gobi and Taklamakan deserts,
along rivers and in the steppe lands of Central Asia.
Q: Tell us something about your last book.
A: My first book ‘Buddhist
Heritage Sites of India’ (2005) is an account of my Dhammayatra in the
footsteps of the Buddha in the land of his birth and enlightenment viz.
Lumbini, Bodhgaya, Sarnath, Kushinagar; the famous rainy season retreats of
Vaishali, Rajgir, Sravasti, Kaushambi; and the Himalayan monasteries of Rumtek,
Tawang, Tabo and those in Ladakh region. The second book In Quest of the
Buddha- A Journey on the Silk Road (2009) deals mainly with my travels along
the Silk Road in China and the Buddhist sites that came up along the trade
routes from Xian through Dunhuang to Urumqi; sites in the Taklamakan and the
Gobi deserts; and those in the provinces of Sichuan and Tibet.
Q: Would you like to share content from your latest book, “Buddha in
Central Asia?”
A: My latest book, third in the
series of historiographical travelogue was published in September, 2014. It
describes the monastic sites of Central Asia that once reverberated with chants
of monks, but are now gradually merging into dust. Soon they will become a
thing of the past. I have recorded my journey into the past that still lingers on
in the crumbling ruins. You can find this book published by Amazon to click
this link.
Q: Where have you been in Central Asia?
A: I travelled from Kabul in
Afghanistan to Kayalik in Kazakhstan covering all neighboring countries of
Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.
Q: What is your opinion about Central Asia as a tourism destination?
A: Many places in Central Asia
are hot tourist spots. The Paghman Darreh and Bagh-e-Babur of Kabul, the
painted caves of Bamiyan, the marble city of Ashgabat, Dushanbe where the
National Museum of Antiquities houses the largest Buddha of Central Asia, the
medieval monuments of Bukhara and Samarkand, the historical museums of Bishkek,
the nature reserves of Almaty and the Buddhist sites of Xinjiang are all top
tourist destinations. But it is difficult to get a visa to visit Central Asia
although most have contiguous borders with Pakistan and India.
Q: What is your opinion about Central Asian hospitality?
A: Central Asia is a lovely place
to be in. Even though you may not know Russian or local languages you will
still understand what people are speaking. There is a special bondage between
Pakistan, India and Central Asia historically and culturally. As soon as you
say you are from India or Pakistan people flock you in bazaars. They are
extremely welcoming. Even as you enter a shop and buy nothing you are always
greeted with freshly cut melons, bunches of black and green grapes, dry fruits
and black tea. All this for free.
Q: What place do you like most?
A: That is difficult to answer. I
was fascinated by many places-the ancient caravan serais and bazaars of
Bamiyan, Old Bukhara and the Registan of Samarkand, the Blue city of
Mazar-i-Sharif, Bishkek-the Switzerland of Central Asia and of course the hills
and nature reserves near Almaty.
Q: Any particular incidents on your travels in Central Asia?
A: I cannot forget my travels
from Kabul to Mazar-i-Sharif. On advice of my friend Fauzia Wardak I packed a
burqa as we would have to trudge into the remote villages of the northern
province of Afghanistan where one has to observe the local tradition of wearing
the hijab. So Fauzia and I clad in long burqas over our salwar kameez and heads
covered in black scarf scurried in and out of Aibak where I was in search of
the Naubahar monastery. That was the first time in my life, I wore the burqa
and covered my face even as I circulated along the pradikshana path at
Takht-e–Rustam.
Q: If you have free time and you are not writing a book, would you like
to visit Central Asian countries and where would you like to spend your maximum
time?
A: I could live all my life in
Samarkand, the beautiful city of Timur and spend hours gazing at the
architectural wonders of Sher Dor and Ulughbeg Medrassas and the brilliance of
the Tillakari mosque at the Registan Square.
I would love to spend more time
in the Archaeological Park of Ancient Merv in Turkmenistan which is dotted with
dozens of ancient and medieval settlements. Here one can find camels carrying
decorated tents on their back to take tourists from one settlement to another
inside the desert. Also I dream of another, perhaps a last chance to search for
the Buddhist monastery of Gyaur Kala that I could not locate inside the deserts
of Merv.
Q: Have you seen Muslim cultural heritage and monuments in Central Asia
or are you just concentrated on Buddhist monuments?
A: I saw more Islamic monuments
than Buddhist. Many times I prayed at the mausolea of Sufi saints and in
mosques. Prominent among these were the Blue Mosque in Mazar-i-Sharif, the Ruhi
Masjidi near Ashgabat, the Kalon Mosque in Old Bukhara, Juma Masjid at Ichon
Kala in Khiva, Khoja Akhmed Yassavi’s mausoleum at Turkistan which is also
called the second Mecca for Muslims, Arslan Bab mausoleum at Otrar, the Dungan
Mosque at Zharkent, etc.
The medieval Muslim monuments of
Central Asia with their splendid calligraphic art, amazing inlay work and
architecture are a source of great pleasure. I also happened to see the holy
7th century AD Othman Koran at the Khast Imam Square in Old Tashkent. And
countless more Islamic monuments whose spiritual magnetism is irresistible.
Q: What is your opinion about Pakistan and Pakistani people?
A: I have travelled by road from
the Wagah Border through Lahore, Gujrat, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Peshawar and
Mardan. In no country of Asia was I welcomed with such warmth that I felt while
I was in Pakistan. I was there at a time when thousands of anti-government
protestors were on the streets. Tear bombs were exploding and politicians were
crying hoarse. Rivers were rising and inundating thousands of villages.
Everyone around me in India was drilling fear into me. But when I reached Islamabad
I saw that normal life was in full swing and there was no scare among the
people. All was calm and quiet except inside the limited area of the Red Zone
of the Parliament. I found Lahore cleaner than Delhi and was told that streets
in Lahore were washed at night. The campus of Punjab University was a canopy of
flowers and amazingly clean. I happened to travel on the M1 and M2 Motorway and
found it so grand.
Q: What do you wish to share with our readers?
A: The need of the hour is the
propagation of peace and prosperity of nations through preservation of our
common cultural heritage and a peaceful development of our societies. This will
go a long way in focusing on education, health and infrastructure development.
In present times the ‘Middle Path’ of Buddhism assumes relevance so that the
path of extremism is avoided for resolving issues- internal or external.
Q: Tell us more about you and your journey of life.
A: A post-graduate in English
Literature from Lucknow University and Masters in Education from Allahabad
University, I continue to study Ancient History at Jiwaji University, Gwalior.
I have been a journalist by profession, having worked in several dailies
including The Times of India, The Hindustan Times, The Pioneer and Northern
India Patrika. I left a full time job in 1997 to pursue my passion for
travelling and photography on the Silk Road through Asia and Europe. For almost
two decades now I have been retracing the Silk Road through China, Central Asia
and India. I was recently in Pakistan to see the cities along the Grand Trunk
Road and write about the Buddhist heritage of Pakistan.